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submissive chat with Little Kaninchen: Tuesday, September 8th 7PM EASTERN USA submissive chat with Little Kaninchen: Tuesday, September 8th 7PM EASTERN USA Topic: sub-space/sub-drop What is it? What does it feel like? Why does it happen? How to work through it. Is yours Emotional or Physical? ATTENTION subs…. Same time Mr. Fox will be doing a chat for new Dominants on his site http://www.husDOM.com

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Are You Floating or Sinking?

Lets first cover the definitions of the terms we are speaking about as they can get confusing.. I am not a doctor or a therapist but I am trying to explain this from my experiences and of what I have been told by the thousands of women and men I have spoke with here in our communities. I want to provide you with a good understanding of what you may experience or want to experience as a submissive in play or a scene.shutterstock_313141358 PD image,subSpace and subDropX Fictional story by Little KaninchenX subMrs PostX Are you Floating or SInkingX Domination and submission Scenes

Adrenaline:shutterstock_305120816,subSpace and subDropX Fictional story by Little KaninchenX subMrs PostX Are you Floating or SInkingX Domination and submission Scenes A hormone that is secreted by the adrenal medulla in response to stress and increases heart rate, pulse rate, and blood pressure, and raises the blood levels of glucose and lipids. It is extracted from animals or synthesized for such medical uses as the treatment of asthma. Chemical name: aminohydroxyphenylpropionic acid; formula: C 9 H 13 NO 3 US name epinephrine  ~Dicitionary.com

When you get adrenaline from anger, fear, or sorrow you get energized, blood rushes through you and your heart beats faster.~Urban Dictionary  

It can cause feelings of excitement or one of “fight or flight.” You can get shaky and uneasy as if you have a blood sugar spike. It is a similar feeling of being under a drug… It can intensify your underlying feelings that you have hidden away. Intensify fears or intensify pleasure. It will soon become your drug of choice, your own personal heroin. ~LK

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Any of a class of polypeptides, including enkephalin, occurring naturally in the brain, that bind to pain receptors and so block pain sensation. Any of a group of peptides, resembling opiates, that are released in the body in response to stress or trauma and that react with the brain’s opiate receptors to reduce the sensation of pain. ~dictionaryreference.com

The name for a set of hormones that affect receptors in the brain, often reducing the sensation of pain or stress. ~Urban Dictionary 

Endorphins can increase the intensity and time you can take pain. They affect the way you feel emotionally. These endorphins can give you the highest high or a very low low…… much like Adrenaline. Endorphins are chemically very much like morphine. Your muscles will relax and your mood calms. Although, afterwards when the flood of the endorphins are gone it can cause what they refer to as sub-drop. Again, this is a submissive’s drug of choice. ~LK

sub-Space:

Physically speaking, when your body overloads on adrenaline or endorphins you can reach a high that many call subspace.  Adrenaline and endorphins act differently when released in the submissive’s body as we discussed above. They are released sometimes from transference of pain or lots and lots of stimulation. It’s a trance-like state most experience. 

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Some characteristics of being in sub-space may be slowing down of time, a lightness, an extreme focus of your partner and nothing else around you. Seeing dots or some people say stars, your limbs are limp, feeling of being in a fog. Once, I couldn’t stop laughing… My Sir and I both started laughing and we didn’t stop for some time..we kept going but laughed non-stop… Many times sub-space has happened for me but it’s not the same for everyone. Some never reach sub-space. One thing I can tell you from the requirements of a body is you reach sub-space after some time being put under duress.. good or bad… it takes time to get there. Do not expect to get there in a 45 minute play/scene. When I was new it took me a long time to get to sub-space. Sir had to stimulate me for a long time…. Our scenes start with stimulation, then pain to pleasure play, then back to stimulation again …. In the beginning it took me almost to the end of a scene to achieve it at all. It does NOT happen every time. Sound or light deprivation …keeping you eyes closed or being masked helps with getting to sub-space. It forces you to feel and not think so much. Over thinking is the number one reason most submissives have a hard time getting to sub-space.

I also would have more sub-drop when I was new to being a submissive. Which we can talk about next paragraph.

sub-Drop

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As the high comes down, and the parasympathetic nervous system, WIKI starts again it can lead to a deep exhaustion, as well as incoherence for the submissive. Physically you can feel cold, limp, sleepy. You will feel a deep satisfaction and luv for your Dominant. He will be attending to your aftercare. A nice warm blanket with some cuddles is exactly what the doctor ordered… I usually take a small nap maybe 30-40 minutes and wake feeling renewed and satisfied. I wake up thirsty and maybe hungry. Sir will apply any cream to my badges as I call them……. Then we will discuss our scene. We discuss what worked and what did not. I am going to tell you something very important! You have to be honest and discuss anything at this point that hurt you or bothered you in any way even the smallest things. If you don’t they can lead to major issues later. Now, Lets talk about the emotional aspects…. Emotionally at first after a scene you are happy. If you have held anything back… it will start as a small mole-hill then slowly turn into a mountain…. I noticed when I was a new sub that I had sub-drop more often then…. I think this is because your body is not used to having the flood and then a drop of these natural chemicals in the blood. I also think if you are a little..older per-se’… Our bodies chemicals are not produced in the amounts that as you’ve aged you’re used to. So, after you have had some time to get used to the process of scening the sub-drop will balance out. In the beginning you will need more care and time to recover. I would advise downtime afterwards.. if not right after later that evening. Also, take into account that if you are on some medications for other things that your new found chemicals could cross with them… Find your balance and if you don’t balance out in a month or two then maybe talk to other submissives or a professional. If you take time off of the dynamics …. Then get back on the bike then remember your body will have to get used to the hormones again. It helps a lot to schedule your scenes and those with traveling Dominants please beware, Do yourselves a BIG favor do not play or scene the night before your Sir travel for business. You miss him terribly and his complete absence so soon after scening can send you into a tail-spin and your Sir feels so helpless because he is so far away.

Fun Facts: 

shutterstock_260987099,subSpace and subDropX Fictional story by Little KaninchenX subMrs PostX Are you Floating or SInkingX Domination and submission ScenesEndorphins the feel good chemical can be stirred in the brain by the smell of vanilla or lavender essential oils. A couple drops of vanilla in your bath water. A couple dabs of lavender on the wrists should do it for you and your Sir. Another interesting tidbit is about chocolate DARK CHOCOLATE, the ones with the most co-co content it can raise your endorphins.. ( Milk chocolate actually does not have the same effect. It can cause anxiety and depression one study added. ) add strawberries to your dark chocolate and you have a double dose! Exercise, sex, music and laugshutterstock_307642853,subSpace and subDropX Fictional story by Little KaninchenX subMrs PostX Are you Floating or SInkingX Domination and submission Sceneshter makes the good chemical as well. If you want a supplement to try go get a bottle of ginseng, it relieves fatigue and stress.

I found a very interesting fact about adrenaline … Most the time they talk about foods that raise adrenaline are caffeine, sugars and alcohol…. But, I had not come upon this one before… Spicy foods. Ya know the ones that actually make your tongue or mouth burn. I guess the burning sensation sends signals to the brain that are similar to the pleasure pain dynamic like a scene would. So, next time your out at a restaurant, eat something spicy… ( Cayenne or Chili Pepper ) Maybe then run home and again get a double dose of the adrenaline.

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  1. Wonderful post LK! Very well explained and lots of helpful information for new subs that are not sure what they are feeling or how to describe it to their Sirs. Thank you for this. You are always so helpful!
    xoxo~KLB

  2. Thank you so much for this informative post! I could have used the following words in the beginning for sure! “Do yourselves a BIG favor do not play or scene the night before your Sir travel for business. You miss him terribly and his complete absence so soon after scening can send you into a tail-spin and your Sir feels so helpless because he is so far away.”

  3. Wonderful post as always, LK!

    Just to reiterate what LK said… please, do not play or scene the day before your Sir leaves if He travels for work. I have learned this lesson the hard way when we were new in our D/s and after I had flown for the first time. Sub-drop was very difficult! However, if you find yourself experiencing sub-drop and your Sir isn’t around, please reach out to this community for reassurance! There are many experienced subs here who can and will help you cope with sub-drop.

    That said…. flying is oh, so fun! *happy sigh*

    Hugs,
    june

  4. I think I hit subspace and subdrop for the first time this weekend. I know I hit a zone of pleasure that I’d never hit before and at the end, I burst into tears. I couldn’t help it. I don’t know why it happened. I just began to sob. My body went limp and Master had to carry me to a chair so I could sit down. He was worried at first, but then realized that he took my pleasure to new heights. Now he can’t wait to do it again.